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Post by Kathleen on Apr 7, 2004 14:46:27 GMT -5
Hi All, for the ones here that know me, all ready know that I have a step son out of controll, and that has been giving hubby and my self ALLOT of greef for the past three years. We have gone throught so much crap with not only this kid, but the x wife, the older sister, and know this kids too.
Well to make a long story short, I always feel like I have to explain the story before asking for help, but as I said I think you all ready know the story. Well we got a phone call one week ago from the hospital out of town, about (100 miles away from here). asking us to sign for them papers for them to trancfer this kid to a hospital near here. This person was calling from the sike word. The step son had been picked up and hospitalised for being out of control and cutting him self, threating others and so on. We said no to keep him, that we would not sign any thing.
WEll during the night they brought him up here and put him in the sike word near by, and then called us. Seems that a sike doctor can over wride a parents appion. Well now this kid has been there for over a week, we have been on the phone with many doctors, case worker "cuz we said we will not pay for this" WE CAN'T.. We would not sign for them to give him meds, cuz we wonted them to see him as he is, and really get a good look. Well two days ago we met with the case worker for the state, doctors, and they all have found this kid to be a threat to him self and to others. He is dangerus, and they said he is sick. I told them that lol... We the state is wonting to put him a an inst-tution (i don't know how to spell it.) a mental word lock, REAL lock up until he is 18 or 21.
Please I am asking if you will prayer for us here that this kids does go to this place and gets help. The lies that he tells, the things that he does, he really needs this help, and we need him to be there too. At least we will know were he is, and how he is doing if they can place him there, and too I will know that I am safe from harm. This kid threatened me the last two times he was in this house. Well please prayer for us.
Thank you, love Kathleen
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Post by SunnyGirl on Apr 7, 2004 15:10:22 GMT -5
( ( ( ( Kathleen ) ) ) )
God knows just exactly what is needed and His will is the perfect one. I pray that the doctors recognize his illness and can help restore him.
I am am sending up extra prayers for you and your family as you are always in my prayers.... You and hubby take care of yourselves and give this one to God.
Luv You, SG
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Post by Caressa2 on Apr 7, 2004 15:21:59 GMT -5
Dear Kathleen,
I will pray that he gets the help he needs, but more importantly that he will be open to receiving it when it comes. We can't help those who don't want it.
You certainly can't enable him and allow him to continue abuse you and your family. Saying no is hard but often the most kind thing we can do for our loved ones and those who are still out their using. Addicts are great craftmasters at getting what they want and telling the stories that sound totally plausibile until you look at it in hind sight!
They are great escape artists, they can talk their way out of anything, they are willling to go to any length to get what they need and to escape their reality. It is the nature of the disease.
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Post by Teiger on Apr 7, 2004 16:14:22 GMT -5
((((((((((((Kathleen)))))))))))) my prayers go out to you and your family and I do hope that your stepson gets the help he needs. I have been through similar things with one of my stepsons many years ago and it is both heartbreaking and scary to watch. We are here for you.
Love,
Karen
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Post by Lin on Apr 7, 2004 18:01:14 GMT -5
My prayers go out to you, hubby and the step son. God knows what he needs. I pray that's exactly what he gets.
Sending good thougths and prayers your way.....
LIN
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Post by lildee on Apr 7, 2004 20:22:08 GMT -5
Dearest Kathleen,
My heart goes out for you. Just as you are settling in to your "new" life trouble comes knocking on your door again. Seeing all that you went through with the stepson and the courts and so on, this latest scenario maybe a real blessing. No one wanted to listen before but it looks like now they are. God gives us things when we need them, according to His schedule. There must be a reason why He chose the medical profession to make this descion instead of the leagal system. But in any event my prayers are with you all. Especially prayers of acceptance for your stepson. God be with you.
Love and God Bless Arlene
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Post by max on Apr 7, 2004 21:58:43 GMT -5
kathleen, my prayers also go out to this situation...i would like to meet this stepson..lay hands on him..perhaps build a relationship with him...you know how to get ahold of me...lots of love, your friend -- max
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Post by dg on Apr 8, 2004 0:36:19 GMT -5
Dear Kathleen, I am sorry that you and hubby are going thru so much. I am sending you my prayers along with a hug too, I hope that with all these things that is going on, will become a blessing in disguise, and the step son will get the help that he truly needs to have. May peace be with you and Harry. ((((kathleen and hubby))))
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Post by Kathleen on Apr 9, 2004 4:46:32 GMT -5
Hi All:
thank you all for your prayers, and your kind carring words. Yes our hands have been full with this kid, and he just seems to get wors as time goes on. What I am afraid of is that he will slip through the cracks like his sister did. But I can say he has a way of getting attention from poeple.
Early this AM we were woke up with a phone call from the hospital. This is a mentail word for kids that have really bad problems, he has been found to be a treat to him self and to others too, and listed dangerus.
Well this AM he exscaped from there, and it is a locked mental word. This AM there was a all point bulletin putt out for him to be found and taken back to the hospital by the police.
We stade in contacted with the hospital all day and into the night on if the police had found him or not. Here in oregon there are allot of places to hide. Woods, forest, mountains, back roads, rivers you name it he can find it to hide there.
Well night came, and I am guessing the police and the hospital got tired of playing this kids game. Cuz about 10:00 PM tonight the police started to comb this town were we live, they had gotten news that he was here some were, so I heard that there were cop cars all over the place looking for him. They went to place were the kid hung out, friends house, school yeards, the park and allies. Well the police found him put the cuff on him and last we heard tonight he was on his way back to the hospital. The Doctor told us that when and if he was returned that he was going to be put in a REAL locked mental word, and not the one for kids. No more nice treatemt. I keep telling him there are price to pay, and you don't play with adults, you don't gurk them around. My step son seems to think that this is all a game, and it is funny to piss people off that are trying to help him.
Well our prayers are being answered cuz now insted of only 6 mounth lock up to get him some help to turn him around, he is now looking at lock up till he is 18. He made the hospital look like fools today, and they are not happy with him at all.
We called the state worker that is working with us, and he is getting in touch with juvinal tomarrow morning, now the kid has every one attention, and I don't think my step son is laughting tonight any more. My husband and I both think that the kid will try again to brake out, he is good at exscaping and always has been. We would go places and with in 5 minuts he would know the layout of were we were at and were the back doors were, and how to get out of there with out going through tha front doors. Well I know he got fead, and he is safe, I know he was not sober when they found him, but by tomarrow he will be sober again. lol
Any way please do keep us in your prayers, we are not out of the woods yet with all of this. Some times I wish I was old and setting in a rocking chair some were in a rest home, and all of this stuff was just a memery. One day at a time, and so it goes here in Sutherlin Oregon.
Love you all Kathleen
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Post by bluidkiti on Apr 9, 2004 5:42:58 GMT -5
(((Kathleen))) I will keep you all in my prayers.
Love, Tammy
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Post by Kathleen on Apr 12, 2004 6:06:09 GMT -5
Hi All thank you all for your kind words and prayers. I am asking for prayer today!!!! ALL DAY!!!!
The sike doctors, the state worker of child wilfair, and Jevail have asked us for a meeting with them today to talk about our son. I really wish I could get my hopes up, BUT I do know any more when it comes to asking for, or evern thinking of getting any kind of help for this kid, to help turn him self around, not to get my hopes up in getting any. We have been told so many times in the past three years that this person is going to help, and that person is going to help, and then no one helps, and this kids goes about doing what he wonts to do.
He excaped last week and they had the cope combing the whole town here to find him, and take him back to the hospital. The doctors had said he is a treat to him self and others, and they now have him on meds, they seem to think that this is going to make him all beter. I don't see any change in him.
The doctors and the police told us when this kid excapted from mentail word were he is, that he was going to be locked down and couldn't be in touch with any one after they brought him back.
WELL, guess what? He has been calling here, and ever were else in town, his druggie friends have been up to see him this week end, and NOTHING has changed. He had NO consacunces for his actions. He got away with what all he did last week.
What I am fearing the most is that this kid is going to be released after the meeting, and he wont one more time get any help. This kid is really sick, and really needs help. I told my husband that if this kid is allowed to come back here I am packing my bags and leaving. I will not stay here one hour with that kid in this house.
PLEASE prayer for us today that this kid goes to lock up so he can get some real help.
Thank you again Love Kathy
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Post by lildee on Apr 12, 2004 7:56:13 GMT -5
My Dearest Kathleen,
Hopefully somrthing good will come out of the meeting today. You are in my deepest prayers. God be with you both.
Love you Arlene
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Post by Caressa2 on Apr 12, 2004 8:39:54 GMT -5
Dear Kathleen,
You and your family are in my prayers. In the Big Book they say that some people are constitutionally incapable of being honest with themselves. I hope and prayer your stepson isn't one of those.
As much as he causes you and your husband pain, he must have a lot of internal pain that he is acting out from what you have shared with us. I pray that he may one day see the light, and be able to walk in recovery a free man in his own right.
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Post by dg on Apr 12, 2004 12:19:42 GMT -5
Hi Kathy, I am so sorry you have to go thru this turmoil again with step son, I willcontinue with the prayers for you and hubby. As much as we hate to hear this when things gets so tough and lowest part of our times,God has a plan for you and the situtation. Hang on tight to HP, and turn it over to HP.. this too shall pass. hugs.
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Post by SunnyGirl on Apr 12, 2004 14:13:54 GMT -5
(((((Kathleen))))))
You will all be in my thoughts and prayers today. I have faith that this will all turn out exactly as God has planned it. I know what your prayers are and I pray it is God's will.....
Luv You, Cherie
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Post by Kathleen on Apr 13, 2004 4:20:29 GMT -5
Well here I am with the on going saga of the Sutherlin news. lol can you tell that I am in better mood tonight, than I have been in a long time? We all had our meeting with every one there, talked and talked, and then it was SAID, this kid is going to get HElP. yaaaaaaaaa thank you God and thank you all for your kind word and prayers for the last few months, for your support and walking through this with me, cuz of you "my EOR family" I was not alone. After the meeting was over then our son was called in to the room. The doctors, state welfair workers, jevenal offericers, Dad and my self all talked and then it was told to him. You are not getting out of here for a while, and then you are going to be placed in LOCKED down for a year. Of course this kid told us he didn't think he had any problems at all, and didn't understand why we all thought he needed help. lol Depending on his attude, and willingness to except the help, he will be in lock up for one year or longer. It is up to him now. The good news is that this kid is not going to slide through the cracks, he is going to get the help he needs. I am smilling tonight, after watching the sister fall and going through all of this up set for amost 7 years now, WE are finly going to get some help. We might of lost the sister, BUT we tonight have hope of seeing this our son turn him self around. Love you all and thanks again for all of your kind support. HUGS and Love Kathy
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Post by lildee on Apr 13, 2004 7:19:45 GMT -5
Dearest Kathleen,
I am grateful that your prayers have been answered.
Love and God Bless Arlene
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Post by dg on Apr 13, 2004 10:06:47 GMT -5
Morning Kathleen, I am glad that good things came out of it all. Thanks for the update. hugs. dg~
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Post by usdupn02 on Apr 13, 2004 10:52:48 GMT -5
I'm so sorry to read of your ongoing challenges with your step-son. I'm sending prayers for all involved.
(((Hugs))) to you and yours.
Janet
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Post by SunnyGirl on Apr 13, 2004 13:24:57 GMT -5
( ( ( ( Kathleen ) ) ) )
God is good.... The power of prayer is such a blessing! I will continue to pray for your son, I pray God will open his heart and show him the way....
Peace on the journey, SG
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