Help

[mender1]

As some of you know my grandaughter came to live with me.
She was in trouble in Ohio and now I am in trouble.
I found that she is narcissistic and has bypolar,
Tuesday she tried to kill herself and took a bunch of tylenol pm and some assorted scripts that were in the cupboard.
It is not a easy trip that I am facing and I am not sure where to go from here.
My sobriety is not is not in trouble but my sanity sure is I have got little to no help from her parents in fact just resistance and lack of trying.
I have had to put her on medicaid because my insurance will not cover her.
I have researched the web and found much on these disorders but little as to do to help her.
She is now on medicine for her bypolar but there is no treatment for narcissism and that is the major disorder.
I have found some support groups for this but have been told the same thing it is incurable.
Wow i thought I had a thinking disorder not even close
Most of my time has been spent in trying to get things in order for her.
I am lost and need support .

[MrDuck]

Wish I had some words of wisdom for you but don't. I really don't know anything about what she is going though. But do wish the best for you. All I know is that God works in misteryist (sp) ways.

Ron

[little726]

Geez Owen, it sure sounds like a mess. You said you were getting Medicaid for her. Why don't you try Mental Health Services where you live. They might be able to suggest some kind of help. Other than that, i'm not sure what else you can do.

Hang in there, Owen. I know the answer will come for you.

Robin

[knothead]

mender1 said:

As some of you know my grandaughter came to live with me.
She was in trouble in Ohio and now I am in trouble.
I found that she is narcissistic and has bypolar,
Tuesday she tried to kill herself and took a bunch of tylenol pm and some assorted scripts that were in the cupboard.

I don't want to diminish the effects that OTC drugs can play, but if she really wanted to "do herself in," there is certainly a better and easier way to go.

It is not a easy trip that I am facing and I am not sure where to go from here.

Actually, you do know. You have posted this, haven't you??? It *IS* a a simple program. But it isn't easy to *LIVE* it all of the time.

My sobriety is not is not in trouble but my sanity sure is I have got little to no help from her parents in fact just resistance and lack of trying.

Acceptance & tolerance are key. Developing a manner of living on lifes' own can formidable. People, places, and things that i have no control of can piss me off, if I let it.

I have had to put her on medicaid because my insurance will not cover her.
I have researched the web and found much on these disorders but little as to do to help her.
She is now on medicine for her bypolar but there is no treatment for narcissism and that is the major disorder.

From what I understand, Narcissism is basically just wanting what you when you want it. Get her into a 12-step program, post haste.

I have found some support groups for this but have been told the same thing it is incurable.

As if alcoholism isn't?

Wow i thought I had a thinking disorder not even close
Most of my time has been spent in trying to get things in order for her.
I am lost and need support .

Well, youve got the support, dude.

I'll be praying for you, mmkay???

[TxRainwater]

Hi Owen, Brenda here/alky
I would check into the mental health system, and possible inpatient treatment....suicidal, bipolar etc etc
There is help available. Hope you find it quickly not only for her sake but for yours honey.
You and yours are in my thoughts and prayers.
love and light,
Brenda

[tired]

Hi sorry to hear of your proplems i agree that an inpatient phy hospital might be helpful to get her stablized on her meds and from ther they can direct her to out patient therpy hope she is willing and wants help good luck i will say some prayers for you all love tired

[~graced~]

(((((((((Owen))))))))))

First of all, I want to echo what folks have said already--Bipolar Disorder is treatable with medications and therapies and enlisting the help of the Mental Health Professionals truly would be the best course for the problem. Medicade is an option as is community mental health services--I'd be checking with Social Services to enlist their help or at the very least, get information of what financial help could be availed so the child can receive some sort of services.

Secondly, that Narcissistic Personality Disorder, coupled with BiPolar, would be a tough one to diagnose. So many of the symptomologies for Manic Episodes mirror Narcissistic Personality Traits. That false sense of importance, the delusions of grandueur, that lack of empathy or ability to feel for other people-- the arrogant, haughty, self centered MEMEME attitude that permeates....all traits that can be attributed to either disorder, along with about sixty other personality disorders.

If she's truly Narcissistic she's going to have to have help in understanding how she's acting doesn't benifit HER. Trying to 'awaken' her to the feelings of others--simply won't work. Narcissistic people don't quite have that connection and you'd be spinning your wheels trying to appeal to her sence of 'how you're hurting others who care about you''. She simply won't get it, though she might mouth the words. She will get how it's costing her and how it's interfering with what she wants/needs. She just won't like it!

Cause/ effect--keeping things black and white and concrete....A+B=C could help shape some of her behavior, but it's difficult to do that in an unstructured environment when the upperhand is held by threats of harm to herself if she's not going to get what she wants or needs. Obviously, getting her outside help would be paramount--especially given her choices todate.

Tough situation, Owen.....and bottom line is she's undoubtedly going to need some professional interventions. And you've got to take care of you in all this as well.

You didn't create this, you can't cure it for her. JUST like with our disease, she's gonna have to want different for herself. You can cheer her on, you can draw lines for her and help her see how she's shooting herself in the foot--but odds are, you're not going to know what you're talking about and she's going to have to experience something outside of YOU to 'get' that there's a problem and she needs help.

Sounds familiar, doesn't it? Cuz that was all true stuff for me and the disease of alcoholism.

((((((((((((((Owen))))))))))))))

I'm hoping you're finding some folks who are willing to help. Cuz again, you don't have to do it alone.

You're in my thoughts.