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Post by Misty on Apr 15, 2005 22:08:17 GMT -5
My sobriety date anniversary has had me looking back a lot. 21 years ago I was a active drunk with the morals of an alley cat. Now all these years later I try to be a
responsible and respectable adult.
Are you moral or immoral? Please let me know! Thanks-----Mistyeve
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Post by lildee on Apr 16, 2005 2:17:45 GMT -5
Good morning Mistyeve,
Moral / Immoral so that is the question.
Now this is my own personal view. IMHO I think morality varies for each person. Some would engage in things that I wouldn't and I am sure there are things that I have done (or still do) that others wouldn't. For me morality is a sense of doing what is right. (Not that I always have.) It is a sense of justness. A feeling that it is OK with God. (Even though He and I don't always see eye to eye. LOL ) I can't judge anyone else's morality only my own and what I am comfortable with. The kind of stuff that when I look in the mirror I am proud and happy to be me. Not that I see a person who is ashamed of what they have done. Sure I have screwed up plenty of times. I am not a saint. But I try to learn and move on to do things better in a more Godly manner. Accepting responsibility is part of it, but also maturity, knowledge and a whole host of other things which make us the people we are. I won't say that I am a religious zealot, but now at this stage of my life I do have some ethics about myself and what I do. So that is just my version of morality. To each their own. I have to live in my skin, no one else does.
Love & God Bless
Arlene
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Post by Lin on Apr 16, 2005 3:46:42 GMT -5
Lildee had an interesting way to see it. Being proud of who we see in the mirror. In that sense i am for sure MORAL.
I really cant see that morally right and wrong can change with people all that much. I dont steal or lie. I dont cheat on my husband and never have. I dont hurt people on purpose with my words. Are all of my actions those i think GOD woudl want me to have? yes. So in MY mind I am morally upright.
Is it morally wrong to swear? Is it morally wrong to hold resentments? Is it morally wrong to have unkind thoughts about others? Is gossiping morally wrong? I'm not sure. Sometimes I do a few of these. The swearing part..they are the 'milder" of words...never certain colorful words.
And I've heard the argument..if a man's family is starving and he steals a loaf of bread to feed them, is he in the wrong or doing what is right? I dont know. I'm glad I was never starving ...to put that bread stealing to the test.
Dont get me wrong...I am not a 'goody-two-shoes+, but i AM proud of myself for my morals and values and I know my GOD would be also.
So count me more on the MORAL side of this chip.
LIN
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Post by Misty on Apr 16, 2005 3:59:40 GMT -5
My Very Dear Arlene----You gave me a flash back of an old poem that was told to me in early sobriety. It was called "The man in the glass
and it talked about how the rest of the world may think you're doing great but if your cheating the man in the glass (mirror) then you are not that great. In short it was saying that you have to feel good about you and not please the rest of the world. I like the phrase "to feel comfortable in your own skin" Thanks so much for stopping
by and triggering off some real important memories. Lots of Grateful Hugs----Mistyeve
Dear Lin---I like the example you brought up of the man who steals a
loaf of bread cuz his family is hungry. The motives that are involved with our actions are just as important as the actions in my
opinion. The courts of law say it is okay to kill someone if it is an
accident or if it is self defense.
The reason behind what you do is a
real important part of having moral
or ethical ways of living. This is
just my opinion. Glad you could stop by to talk about this! Thanks
Honey!----Mistyeve
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Post by caressa on Apr 16, 2005 7:44:55 GMT -5
It is my feeling that I am morally obligated to live up to the spiritual principles of the program to the best of my ability daily. This is a living program and if I have recovery, then it is up to me to show it by walking my talk.
When I am truly honest with myself, I know what is right and wrong for me. I feel it is my own truth and when I walk with God, hopefully His too.
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Post by Misty on Apr 16, 2005 7:58:00 GMT -5
Dear Caressa----The program says it is God as we understand him. This is one of the most attractive parts of the program in my opinion cuz I am not getting someone else's God stuffed down my throat. It is a idea of God that I can live and work with. Thanks for stopping by!
Mistyeve
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. I will be back looking for Lin and others.